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Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Richy on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 6:12 am

.TEL has become the first domain extension in history with falling registration numbers back to the level of the first week after launch (in 2009)!

Congratulations, Telnic!
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Toptel on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 6:33 am

The journey is not over yet.
Nobody knows how far we still fall.
Will .tel survive?
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by TelGirl on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 9:08 am

GoTel wrote:
4444 wrote:
The lower the sales figures, the lower the takeover price of the entire TLD. It's better to wait until registrations will fall under 100k.

This should happen in Mar/Apr 2014.
The 5-year anniversary of .TEL General Availability should see the first drop below initial registration figures in 2009.
We're almost there now ....

http://registrarstats.com/TLDHistoryChart.aspx?TLDName=TEL

Sad, sad, sad.  Too bad they just didn't put in a real directory.

There is always a time delay for dropping domains. Most domains have been registered in the months March and April and will drop from May until July.
Since .tel has mostly domain investors as registrants and very few businesses, many will follow the example of this massive drop that just occurred.

Hence the next crash will happen in the middle of 2014.
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 11:22 am

mikeseaton wrote:After 30% (64,204 as % of 212,622) of registered .tels  were dropped in just 2 days you would have thought Telnic would make a statement explaining it !

Now it's .mobi's turn with a dramatic net loss today of 67,168 as recorded at http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx

Still the remaining total registration figure of 1,073,452 .mobi domains looks a lot healthier than 148,192 .tels - less than half the March 2011 peak of 333,891 .tels as shown at http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2011.php

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Telnot on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 12:08 pm

Stunning how much attention Telnic gets. Any other company would be very proud. Now Telnic needs something positive to talk about. Ha ha!
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by TelTrading on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 12:33 pm

Who likes to support Telnic's target to throw out all customers and will cancel the domain subscription, too?
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by ixida on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 4:36 am

Expert wrote:Usually ICANN would make a call for proposals and will negotiate all terms for a new registry agreement with the potential successors.
Consequently no .tel registrant will lose his domain(s), but the price level for renewal fees of domains will be renegotiated and is completely open.

What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel, because of the lack in success and the high competition by thousands of new TLDs?
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Toptel on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 5:15 am

ixida wrote:What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel, because of the lack in success and the high competition by thousands of new TLDs?

In that case nobody could use .tel domains anymore.
That wouldn't make a big difference, because already today most customers don't use their .tel domains neither.

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by maxi on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 7:53 am

ixida wrote:What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel ...  ?
Then I could buy it for $1. ))
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by telcity on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 8:53 am

I hate telnic,
pls dont keep silent,
Let me know what happen.
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Telnot on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 9:34 am

maxi wrote:
ixida wrote:What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel ...  ?
Then I could buy it for $1. ))

Be careful; then you have to pay the salaries for the directors in the amount of several millions.
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Telnot on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 9:36 am

telcity wrote:I hate telnic

Telnic just want your best: your money!

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by maxi on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 10:32 am

telcity wrote:pls dont keep silent,
Let me know what happen.
How to Use a Voodoo Doll - they say there it really works. You can try it. Who knows, then may be you will change the history of this business.


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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by maxi on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 10:40 am

Telnot wrote:
maxi wrote:
ixida wrote:What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel ...  ?
Then I could buy it for $1. ))

Be careful; then you have to pay the salaries for the directors in the amount of several millions.
I know a man who will buy it from me for $2 - with all its staff ! 


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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Telnot on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 2:37 pm

maxi wrote:
Telnot wrote:
maxi wrote:
ixida wrote:What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel ...  ?
Then I could buy it for $1. ))

Be careful; then you have to pay the salaries for the directors in the amount of several millions.
I know a man who will buy it from me for $2 - with all its staff ! 

100 % profit! The best .tel investment ever!
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 01 Feb 2014, 10:08 am

ixida wrote:What will happen if ICANN can't find a new registry operator for .tel, because of the lack in success and the high competition by thousands of new TLDs?

NOT A LOT - .TEL WILL WITHER AND DIE !

ICANN insist on an insurance policy being in place to cover the immediate operating costs of a gTLD should it's Registry go bust, but obviously this only lasts for a limited period whilst a new operator is being sought.

The BEST solution to SAVE the .tel gTLD is for Telnic to realise (I don't expect them to publicly admit it) they have made an absolute ****-up of the .tel project and to salvage some shareholder value by selling out to a company like Afilias NOW !

But when have Telnic ever listened to members of this forum ?

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by maxi on Sat 01 Feb 2014, 11:59 am

Moonlight wrote:O.K. - this domain extension makes no sense anymore!
I also give up .tel!
Moonlight, do you mean dropping all your TELs?
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Moonlight on Sun 02 Feb 2014, 12:29 pm

maxi wrote:Moonlight, do you mean dropping all your TELs?
At the moment, nothing holds me back.
If .tel will ever recover, then I can buy the many expired domains.
Meanwhile I can save the renewal fees.
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It's Official

Post by GoTel on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 6:24 am

Just in case you missed the chart:

http://registrarstats.com/TLDHistoryChart.aspx?TLDName=TEL


Any REAL directory yet?

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by maxi on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 1:45 pm

Moonlight wrote:
maxi wrote:Moonlight, do you mean dropping all your TELs?
At the moment, nothing holds me back.
If .tel will ever recover, then I can buy the many expired domains.
Meanwhile I can save the renewal fees.
I thought about saving all the money on renewing my TELs, but at last decided to have a further risk for few years more. Of course, after reducing to some minimal level number of my TELs.
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Tim Spears on Sat 08 Mar 2014, 7:08 am

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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Tim Spears on Sat 08 Mar 2014, 7:09 am

The next crash is going to come very soon. Every March is renewal time.
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by Nuki on Wed 07 May 2014, 10:02 pm

There are so many similarities between Telnic and the former (also London-based) Global Name Registry...

In an effort to stimulate demand, GNR created PersonalNames and started to market domain names themselves. Don't know the exact reason, but I could imagine some communication between ICANN and GNR probably lead to the transfer of PersonalNames to Dotster.

Second level dot names were introduced, like all-numeric tel names.

Later they made another attempt and created FreeYourID to try to sell dot names and jump on the OpenID bandwagon. Officially the registrar was Key-Systems (!), who also took over the clients when FreeYourID shut down later.

Finally, in 2008, Verisign acquired GNR for $11.7 million.
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by 4444 on Thu 08 May 2014, 5:40 am

@Nuki

That's interesting!
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Re: Groundbreaking crash at Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Thu 08 May 2014, 6:35 am

Tim Spears wrote:The next crash is going to come very soon. Every March is renewal time.

See http://www.teltalk.org/t1634p8-are-you-still-sleeping#10122

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