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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 2:30 pm

shahid1 wrote:standard 5 -10 subdomains it US$ 5/yr 
then we jump to 300 subdomains it will cost 15/yr
then if we jump to 1000 it will cost 35/yr
if we go to 5000 it will cost 60/yr
It is very expensive.
The number of subdomains should not affect the cost of the service.
I've posted my .tel websites on 4 different hosting sites.
The most expensive hosting costs $ 40 per year for 100 domains.
It turns out hosting for one domain costs 40 cents per year.
Subdomains can be any number, their weight is very small.
Previously, we had 3,000 subdomains + domain registration for $ 10.
Now we need the same cheap service, since our sites are very cheap in themselves
It's cheaper to hire a webmaster and he will make you the same new site cheaper than the paid service will restore your old .tel.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by shahid1 on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 2:55 pm

mals wrote:
shahid1 wrote:standard 5 -10 subdomains it US$ 5/yr 
then we jump to 300 subdomains it will cost 15/yr
then if we jump to 1000 it will cost 35/yr
if we go to 5000 it will cost 60/yr
It is very expensive.
The number of subdomains should not affect the cost of the service.
I've posted my .tel websites on 4 different hosting sites.
The most expensive hosting costs $ 40 per year for 100 domains.
It turns out hosting for one domain costs 40 cents per year.
Subdomains can be any number, their weight is very small.
Previously, we had 3,000 subdomains + domain registration for $ 10.
Now we need the same cheap service, since our sites are very cheap in themselves
It's cheaper to hire a webmaster and he will make you the same new site cheaper than the paid service will restore your old .tel.


Hello again, 

Yes you are right on what ever you are saying but note we are using a dedicated server costing us 280$ a month more over we have developing costs not just for now but to improve in the coming future with more and more features and developments. 

We plan to use enterprise cloud flare to avoid any attacks in future
It costs over 2400$ a yr 

Regular development even 4 times an yr is over 5000$ 

Around 3200+$ for server so if we have a hand full of Pele only wanting to pay 5$ for unlimited or no restrictions on subdomains it surely unfair to us and people who wish to pay. 

More over you are invited to use it free if you feel you like it you continue and if you don't we can always find a solution because this is people's product that is made for a solution to help previous tel and also explore many other tlds with sub domains. 

As for pricing I have given you an idea we have not decided we know our system is good people will pay but we are always there to help you what ever your suggestion it can be taken in consideration. 

Thanks
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 3:43 pm

shahid1 wrote:Yes you are right on what ever you are saying but note we are using a dedicated server costing us 280$ a month more ...
We plan to use enterprise cloud flare to avoid any attacks in future
It costs over 2400$ a yr 
Regular development even 4 times an yr is over 5000$ 
Around 3200+$ for server so ...
Your expenses are your problems.
It will not turn out to immediately compensate all your expenses at the expense of us.

First you have to invest your money in your project, and develop it.
Over time, your service can make a profit.

Your business will pay off in the future if many thousands of people come to you.
But I doubt that it will be the owners of .tel domains.
Almost all sites are very cheap, they are not worth the money that you have to pay for your service.
For example, the most expensive my sites http: http://oldenburg.tel and http: http://greece-hotels.tel cost me $ 100.
These sites have 3,000 subdomains.
These sites generate revenue of about 80 dolars a year.
If I use your service, these sites will cause a loss.

Your web site constructor is suitable for domains in all zones.
You need to advertise it as a universal site builder.
If it is simple and user-friendly, in time you will gain thousands of customers and then you can reduce the cost of the service.
But you have and there will be many competitors.
For example, one of them is http: http://www.wix.com
The site builder is free, you just have to pay a little for hosting.

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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by maxi on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 2:06 pm

mals wrote:There are several options for using .tel domains.

1. Sell.

2. Find a site builder, there are a lot of free constructs on the Internet, but they are all much more complicated than telhosting.

3. Hire a webmaster and make a regular website.

4. Use the services of paid services, as proposed by Kprobe [shahid/mals].

5. Copy from backup and put on the Internet your sites.
I preferred the fifth option, as the cheapest one.

6. ..., drop domains and forget about them.

7. If you yet are not ready to drop, when you can use one-page TEL at Telhosting as a source to have "inbound link" to your main COM website. This could add some SEO bonuses to your main COM site. In this case it is better to paid few additional dollars and hide your privacy at Whois of this TEL.

8. Use as independent one page site at Telhosting (saying truth, for me it is difficult to discover what profit it could bring?).

9. Use as one-page at Telhosting, which has many "logical" links to you big COM site - like this example.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 2:40 pm

7. It's too late to hide your privacy, the search engines have long indexed the Whois of your TEL.
8. In low-competitive and low-frequency queries, you can try to use single-page sites. I am now experimenting. Two weeks ago I made a dozen sites like this http: http://dmitrov.tel
They are made for regional low-competitive inquiries.
I'll see how the search engines will appreciate these one-page.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by Boracay on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 4:16 pm


Your map does NOT show on an iPhone. You should contact cservice and ask that this BUG be expedited
Asap. Here's what your site looks like on a billion iPhones


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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by Boracay on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 4:28 pm

Anyway, I think your use of the telhosting template is very good.
So, by adding PDF links do you think this will be a good search engine addition??

We then need to host the PDF's somewhere else?
Just like the video clip, does it need to be hosted somewhere else??

I built www.beach.tel in a total of 5mins.
Could have been faster if the my.tel app let me simply upload a video.
But I think these sites are great and so easy USING THE APP


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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by Blunderer on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 8:49 pm

@boracay, the PDF will load from your own device.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by Boracay on Fri 31 Mar 2017, 6:04 am

Thanks blunderer 
I'll get around shortly to adding pdfs if it's that simple.
Like to use the app


Edit:
Nope I must be brain dead to keep trying these things
So how to add a PDF with the iPhone app???
Can't even find the function to attempt uploading a PDF


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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by x1y2 on Sat 01 Apr 2017, 4:30 am

I have thought about it and came to the following conclusion:

Telhosting has one big advantage: it's free and included in the moderate registration fee.

For people who don't want to create a whole website, it's a very nice way to own an internet address.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by Moonlight on Sat 01 Apr 2017, 4:34 am

@x1y2

Very good point!
I don't know any other domain extension that offers a (small) hosting solution included.
That's a great benefit of .tel!
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Sat 01 Apr 2017, 5:25 am

Another advantage of telhosting is its simplicity.
I tried to use several site designers such as
http: http://www.ucoz.ru http: http://www.wix.com https: http://ukit.com https: http://www.webasyst.co.uk and others. 
It turned out to be very difficult for me, it took a very long time and I gave up this idea.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by Moonlight on Sat 01 Apr 2017, 5:42 am

Yes, that's the reason why I think that Telhosting isn't dead.
It's not possible to build an extensive website with Telhosting, but it's a perfect solution for starters!
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Post by TelBlogger on Sun 02 Apr 2017, 4:47 am

x1y2 wrote:I have thought about it and came to the following conclusion:

Telhosting has one big advantage: it's free and included in the moderate registration fee.

For people who don't want to create a whole website, it's a very nice way to own an internet address.
How can it at the same time be:

1. Free
and 
2. Included in the "moderate" registration fee.

Surely these two statements contradict one another.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by x1y2 on Sun 02 Apr 2017, 5:29 am

TelBlogger wrote:
x1y2 wrote:I have thought about it and came to the following conclusion:

Telhosting has one big advantage: it's free and included in the moderate registration fee.

For people who don't want to create a whole website, it's a very nice way to own an internet address.
How can it at the same time be:

1. Free
and 
2. Included in the "moderate" registration fee.

Surely these two statements contradict one another.
I expect that people with a little bit of common sense understand my statement very well.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by TelBlogger on Sun 02 Apr 2017, 7:39 am

By implication you are saying that I don't have common sense. Interesting. I raise a point about your statements, and then you attack me personally. Hmmm ...

Quid pro quo: your response shows off either your low intelligence or your poor education. Argumentum ad hominem.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by shahid1 on Tue 04 Apr 2017, 12:32 am

mals wrote:
shahid1 wrote:Yes you are right on what ever you are saying but note we are using a dedicated server costing us 280$ a month more ...
We plan to use enterprise cloud flare to avoid any attacks in future
It costs over 2400$ a yr 
Regular development even 4 times an yr is over 5000$ 
Around 3200+$ for server so ...
Your expenses are your problems.
It will not turn out to immediately compensate all your expenses at the expense of us.

First you have to invest your money in your project, and develop it.
Over time, your service can make a profit.

Your business will pay off in the future if many thousands of people come to you.
But I doubt that it will be the owners of .tel domains.
Almost all sites are very cheap, they are not worth the money that you have to pay for your service.
For example, the most expensive my sites http: http://oldenburg.tel and http: http://greece-hotels.tel cost me $ 100.
These sites have 3,000 subdomains.
These sites generate revenue of about 80 dolars a year.
If I use your service, these sites will cause a loss.

Your web site constructor is suitable for domains in all zones.
You need to advertise it as a universal site builder.
If it is simple and user-friendly, in time you will gain thousands of customers and then you can reduce the cost of the service.
But you have and there will be many competitors.
For example, one of them is http: http://www.wix.com
The site builder is free, you just have to pay a little for hosting.
Hello Mals,

Sorry for the late reply have been busy with other things so couldn't concentrate here I wanted to reply your post.

It is correct my expenses are my problems and I am not trying to take compensation from you, this system is being built for me since I own over 150 .tels by now and run a few directory myself for SEO purely nothing more but at the end it is a system being built and it has it's cost in order for us to evaluate what is going to be the cost we will charge should anyone wishes to use it as I had earlier mentioned we had not decided anything but we had something in mind that's about it and since you asked I shared my thoughts but it is good you brought it up so it got revised :) 

we are working on a price range from US$ 5-15 US$ a yr/domain that is about it so I think it will be in peoples range.

yes the website builder is for all types of TLDs but i want the benefit to go to .tel since .tel was the one which came with the idea of subdomains and I think we need to be fair enough to give back to the community, help and assist each other this is the reason I am offering my service for free for 2 months if you don't like it you don't lose anything you are free to try anything you like but since you are a developer as well and offer the restoration of .tel sites I think it might not be of any interest to you.

before building or thinking of this the only one I could see was/is wix.com and we will do our best to have them as our competitors to go in the right direction. 

They are free because they are big we aren't because we aren't big and neither are we listed on the stock market
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Tue 04 Apr 2017, 5:22 am

shahid1 wrote:but since you are a developer as well and offer the restoration of .tel sites I think it might not be of any interest to you.
Hello Shahid1
I'm not a developer.
I have 50 .tel websites and I'm looking for the cheapest ways to restore my sites, since the sites themselves are very cheap and they bring in a small profit or loss.
In the domain name market, domains in the .tel zone have occupied a niche of cheap sites without hosting and here they have no competitors.
Restoring a site can cost money, but the service should not cost more than $1-5 per year, regardless of the number of subdomains.
Otherwise, it will go into another category and you will have hundreds of competitors.
There are very many such free designers http://nethouse.me/?p=w3tech.
Almost every registrar of domain names offers its own site builder.
You can hire a webmaster from India or Russia and for $100 he will make you a real site, better than .tel. In the future it will be necessary to pay only $1 a year for hosting not much for the changes introduced.
In general, the more expensive your service, the more competitors you have.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by shahid1 on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 1:34 am

mals wrote:
shahid1 wrote:but since you are a developer as well and offer the restoration of .tel sites I think it might not be of any interest to you.
Hello Shahid1
I'm not a developer.
I have 50 .tel websites and I'm looking for the cheapest ways to restore my sites, since the sites themselves are very cheap and they bring in a small profit or loss.
In the domain name market, domains in the .tel zone have occupied a niche of cheap sites without hosting and here they have no competitors.
Restoring a site can cost money, but the service should not cost more than $1-5 per year, regardless of the number of subdomains.
Otherwise, it will go into another category and you will have hundreds of competitors.
There are very many such free designers http://nethouse.me/?p=w3tech.
Almost every registrar of domain names offers its own site builder.
You can hire a webmaster from India or Russia and for $100 he will make you a real site, better than .tel. In the future it will be necessary to pay only $1 a year for hosting not much for the changes introduced.
In general, the more expensive your service, the more competitors you have.


Hello Mals, 
sorry for my misunderstanding I thought maybe you are as I think I saw somewhere in the forum you offered the service for US$ 50 to restore any .tel anyways in our system it is free for now to restore any .tel in less than 5 minutes depending on the file size.
that is nice to know hopefully I will do my level best to assist someone that can make money and help us as well. our cost will be low can't be US$ 1 but maybe 5-15 US$ depending on what suits us best and the client as well.

basically, it is going to another category as I am registrar of a tld and I want to compete for my competitors with my own website builder so I guess this is a good start to start with something with subdomains and jump in the mainstream with other options INSHAALLAH ( if GOD wills ) 

what is the difference with tel is the SEO factor if the guy who is making the site for 100 US$ I would advise him to make a bunch for himself if he could make the same SEO our focus is on SEO, not just site builder right now I build a website one page and it is on top for one keyword which might not be very famous or common as of now but if it gets u lead it is 10-100 times the renewal fee of each domain.

we will have competitors even in low pricing but we want to have a quality product at an affordable price that gives back for what people spent on it.

Thanks for your time in reading
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 6:36 am

Hello shahid1.
My son told me that for $ 20 he can copy the site from the Internet and post it on the hosting.
For $ 50, you can restore the .tel site from backup.
In the future, it will be necessary to pay for hosting 1-2 dollars per year, regardless of the number of subdomains.
Hosting is so cheap, because the .tel websites weigh very little in MB.
The biggest my site http: http://greece-hotels.tel with 3,000 subdomains weighs 44 MB, its hosting costs $ 2 a year.
Other sites weigh 10 to 100 times less and, accordingly, hosting is cheaper.

And now attention!
Anyone who has already made his site and does not intend to make changes, who does not need a control panel, can restore his site from a backup copy for free using the Shahid service1 and then hire a programmer from India and for $ 10 he will copy it and post it on the hosting.
A US programmer will take a little more for work, but it's still more profitable than paying $ 5-15 a month for a service.

Therefore, you need to make copy protection.

Now about the CEO of the factor.
Based on its experience, the CEO can say that there is no advantage to the .tel sites.
Search engines rank sites based on 1000 signs. The advantage of some factors is compensated by the lack of others.

BUT, if you want to believe, you will believe and no obvious arguments can force you to give up your faith.
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Re: Forget Telhosing !!!

Post by mals on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 9:27 am

Sorry, read SEO correctly.
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